Nadia
Lee Cohen’s work needs little introduction on i-D. From her collaboration with
Millicent Hailes in 2015 to her solo show in Spain last summer, we’ve been,
like so many others, continually fascinated by the elevated, cinematic
portrayals of womanhood the photographer creates. And, like a method actor
continually fine-tuning her role as one such woman, Nadia too remained a source
of fascination; just as mythologised as the bodies in her images.
Based in
Los Angeles and often assumed to be American, owing to the recurring motifs of
old Hollywood and classic Americana in her work, Nadia in fact grew up in
London, moving west after graduating from London College of Fashion. This
lineage, and its juxtapositions, can be traced throughout her first book,
Women, an anthology of her signature work.
A
mixture of subjects, some haughty looking, others less guarded, some familiar,
some unknown, the book embodies the very best of Nadia’s world. Whether it’s
Alexa (Demie) poolside, caked in makeup but still tanning herself beneath the
Hollywood sign, or Lilly, tentatively peering out of her curtains yet
completely nude, or Anja, pregnant, solemn, leaning against a kitchen counter,
there’s infinite stories wrought across each of their faces and bodies.
Here,
Angela Hill of IDEA, the publishers behind Women -- its fastest selling book of
all time -- discusses with her the long journey to creation, the many different
artists, actors and directors that informed its narrative, and shooting Charli
XCX in a motel full of sex workers and customers.
**What
were you like as a child and how was your childhood?
**I was
quite unfeminine, didn’t like wearing dresses or brushing my hair. I was raised
on a farm in rural England by very relaxed parents. I spent my time running
around wet fields covered in mud, hunting for fossils, stepping in cow shit and
building fairy houses out of twigs. I believed in everything there was to
believe in; Father Christmas, witches, fairies -- the lot. Nothing could stunt
or interrupt my imagination, probably because of how remote the surroundings
were.
**Why
was I so moved by these images? I was hesitant about publishing this book at
first, it was the polar opposite of everything we had done before and I am
steeped in my love of documentary-style grunge street-type photography. At
first the images are brash and obvious and screaming out at you from the page.
When we received the first advance copies in the office. I looked through the
book and felt more and more emotional. I walked home mentally going over
details from some of the images, some subjects appeared so desolate to me, so
beaten up by life (we see Scarlett, young yes but already having that world
weary look, sitting simultaneously smoking and breast feeding in Hampstead; the
lighting is exquisite, the setting dark and heavy, foreboding almost. On later
viewings of this image I am drawn to the toast rack, flowers and vase; exactly
the vase and flowers my grandmother would have. It’s one of my favourite images
in the book), there was a sadness, more than a melancholy, because maybe one
indulges in melancholy from time to time and these felt like lives lived that
there was a lot to forget about.
**I was
reminded of the film The Thin Blue Line (1988) -- both in terms of the
imagery/scenarios and the soundtrack too which is in turns haunting, plaintive
and beautiful. The film is a reconstruction documentary (and was controversial
because of this) as is Women.
**The
location of the last image in the book is of a flat in Finchley and I was
reminded of November Sunday evenings at home, suburban London, as a teenager; a
feeling of despair, a heaviness, the thought of school the next day, the
routine of every Sunday. I got the feeling some of the women you photographed were
left alone in every sense after the shoot -- all the glitz and glamour gone --
just themselves to deal with. Is this a valid assumption?
**I
agree in the sense that there is an approach of adding and subtracting
throughout. Adding in terms of the hair, makeup, nails, and general theatrics
of their appearance. Subtraction however, in the form of the setting, posing
and mood; this is where the darker element settles in. The locations, even if
domestic, tend to be somewhat remote or desolate. I'm personally drawn to this
sort of space and want the models to reflect their surroundings in their pose,
or ‘non-pose’ actually. The idea is that they are captured mid-movement, off
guard, or a split second after asking them to relax, slump, hunch, ‘be sleepy’,
etc. The majority of the best images seem to be towards the end of a shoot,
when the model is maybe slightly more comfortable and has had time to settle
into the situation and accept their respective character. Scarlett in
particular — tiny baby Mosco was only two months old and was screaming and
crying as he didn’t want to feed, the atmosphere was quite intense until he
eventually latched on after around eight attempts, so there was a genuine sense
of relief felt at the moment that photo was taken.
You are
in the book, maybe in more ways than just your self portrait. A photographer
friend of ours was in the office recently and he said something very
interesting in that he didn’t resonate with other photographers’ work if he
couldn’t see something of that photographer in their work. And then I thought
of how much of Nan Goldin’s work is Nan Goldin herself, or Corinne Day or Tina
Barney themselves. We see Finchley and Hampstead juxtaposed with Palm Springs,
Brooklyn and LA in the location credits; was it just a practical decision as
that was where the models were or was it important for you to revisit your
London background and mix it with the high contrast of LA?
It did
feel important to have London in there. This was one of the elements I felt
missing when I looked at the body of work around two years ago; so I made a
conscious effort to photograph the places that resonated. The sentimentality is
present in the smaller details such as the popping burnt toast and patriotic
England mug in “Shocking”. Or the copy of The Sunday People and pint of milk in
Scarlett’s; these are nostalgic memories for me. I initially wanted to travel
to California as it all seemed very preserved in terms of locations and signage
that were still intact from the late 70s-early 80s, and I'm definitely not an
advocate for modern architecture. I felt this was missing in the UK, but the
more time I spent away from the UK the sooner I realised that this isn’t the
case at all. I just struggle with a tendency to become blind to what inspires
me about a place unless I am away from it for a long period of time. I’ve
actually just got back to the UK following the longest I’ve ever been out of
the country and the smallest elements start to feel novelty and
quintessentially British. I really start to notice and appreciate every Mr
Kipling cake.
**Do you
agree with this sentiment that, like Freud’s dream analysis, you are every
subject in this book?
**That’s
hard to answer without sounding pretentious, but yes, not in an overt way,
probably just in the choice of an object. I’m not sure if this is a great
example, but there is a wig that is used in several images that we named ‘Aunty
Paulene’. The name came from a time when my mum's friend Paulene turned up at
her house sporting it and it wasn’t received in the way that she had hoped, as
mum fell about laughing. So she quickly whipped it off and I adopted it. The
wig actually looks a bit like my hair, so perhaps this suggests some sort of
repressed Freudian desire to inflict this hairstyle on several people.
**The
book was the fastest selling of any book we have published; what do you think
most people’s reasons are for wanting these images so much? For me, I want to
look at them again and again and every time I do I notice something else (I
have the same feeling with Van Gogh, I notice one flower more than I had ever
done before or the way the wood in a chair is painted); another intriguing
detail, a fold of fabric, colours, lighting -- they are works of art, each one
a tableau, a film, movie that the viewer can construct in their mind. How long
did it take from the idea of an image to casting, staging and achieving the
final print you were happy with?
**I
can’t get over that and probably never will. I’m completely speechless at the
response it had. I don’t know because I can’t look at them from an objective
perspective. Though I do think people enjoy narrative and storytelling. I
certainly do in the photography work that I admire, even if it is predominantly
documentary, the capture of drama within a still image can make the most
mundane of situations magical. One of my favourite books is Ray’s a Laugh by
Richard Billingham, the situations of his mother and father in a Birmingham
council flat have those same feelings that you mentioned for me in terms of
noticing something new every time I look at them. I feel like I've gone off
topic, so to answer your question it took absolutely ages from initial idea to
execution, especially when I ran out of money for production and had to produce
the shoots myself; but those were almost the most fun.
I have a
stream of consciousness that plays out words, stills from films, music, images
etc like triggers that inspire me; it changes from time to time but it has long
been there since childhood and it often plays out like this; herbs, British
Folk Music, Essex Marshes, owls, eagles and kites, Ralph Vaughan Williams, KES,
The Loneliness of the Long Distance Runner, The Go-Between, Edwardiana… like a
mantra I have to come back to remember in my work to stick to what is ‘me’.
Would you say your main inspiration is film? Which films or directors have
really moved you? I love the feeling of watching something and feeling changed
afterwards, feeling “OK, that can be done”, “that does exist, that brilliance”
and I strive to achieve my goals all over again.
**Yes
and I almost feel guilty for having the same inspirations, but you can’t help
what initially shapes you and I continually revisit those with the guilt that I
haven’t found something new. A lot of it is from film absolutely, I owe a lot
of it to my punk teenage boyfriend who had impeccable taste in film, music and
art. I think my taste grew from that. It does come from everywhere though, not
just Stanley Kubrick and Fellini. I’m interested in food packaging, signage,
pointless trinkets and personal objects in charity shops. Also any artwork that
puts a spotlight on mundanity. Duane Hanson’s sculptures epitomise this idea
and have been a constant source of wonderment and inspiration. How fabulous
would it be to have one in my living room one day.
Which
was the most difficult image to achieve?
Charli’s
without a doubt. It was photographed towards the end of the project and I had
to go back to shooting in a similar style to how I started, with minimal team
and minimal funds. Charli is a famous person and we had never met, so when her
management asked if there would be ‘security’ at the location I had to explain
that there would not… I drove around Hollywood on Friday night to location
scout with Sami Knight (hairstylist) and remembered a particular motel. It’s
run by this friendly man that I met five years previously, we drove by and it
still looked as great as I remembered, he was still there, quietly vacuuming
the green carpeted steps outside as though no time had passed. He remembered me
and said we could shoot there the next night for the price of a room; $145, a
bargain. However, when we turned up the following evening, (now Saturday night)
it was quite a different atmosphere. The solitary vacuumer was replaced with a
flood of men in tracksuits looking for debauchery. They were intermingled with
determined looking sex workers. I found the situation interesting, but Charli’s
management didn’t quite feel the same and were terrified generally of placing
her in a situation that was unsafe, also concerned that someone might see her
and snap a photo on their phone and sell it to TMZ or something. The entire
night was a dramatic obstacle course of trying to get this photo at any given
quiet moment (there were none). Charli was marvellous though, very calm and
this shows in the final image which reflects none of the chaos that was felt
that night. This was the only photograph I wrote about in the back of the book,
titled ‘Motel Notes’.
**Can
you remember when you first thought of doing this series or was it that it was
only after meeting one particular woman that you felt inspired to make it a
project?
**I
started in university, it was part of a project that I shot for my end of year
assignment and I was naive enough to think that I could complete it in a year.
Thank god I didn’t, it would have been terrible. My tastes changed and developed
so much over the course of its progress, though there are one or two still in
the book from those very early photo shoots that show the progression.
**What
next for you? What is driving you forward into 2021?
**I’m
the worst at working on more than one thing at a time. I was supposed to be
working on something else last year but I put everything off in order to get
the book out. I’m reluctant to mention what the next thing might be in case it
ends up taking me just as long to complete!
Nadia
Lee Cohen’s Women is surreal, sad and sexy. By Ryan White. i-D , December
18, 2020.
Nadia
Lee Cohen is only 29, but you’d be forgiven for thinking she’s a behemoth of
image-making. One look at her debut book, Women, published by IDEA, and you’ll
see why.
The
fruit of six years’ labour, Women brings together 100 portraits of staggering
power and beauty. Kept under wraps for the majority of that time, the project
was carried out in secret, alongside her work as a director, and was completed
in lockdown.
“The
word ‘Women’ in this case is an idea related to ‘character’,” Cohen says of the
title. “It doesn’t reside in the world we live in, nor does it share the same
politics, beauty norms or values. It stands as a representation of strong
femininity within a series of these 100 mise-en-scêne.”
The book
sees Cohen capture people of all ages, shapes and sizes, in various states of
undress. Each subject appears to be at total ease in front of the camera,
unflinching and unapologetic in their femininity.
“Regardless
of their assigned character, the level of nudity is determined by whatever the
individual personally believes it is to feel ‘unclothed’,” the photographer
says of the nudity in the book. “This naturally differs between subjects;
however, it is, perhaps, the most harmonising thread that injects a universal
feeling of strength to these images. The most important character trait being
that these ‘Women’ are not weak, they feel empowered and, in turn, empower.”
Power is
the key word here – these images vibrate with the stuff. They confront you.
Command you. Compel you. Meet your gaze head on. And they are full of
contradictions, too: simultaneously retro and modern, they draw on a legacy of
British and American cinema, but feel new and current. Likewise they are staged
and stylised, but at the same time real and irrefutably raw. Meanwhile, the
women themselves display both a vulnerability and a strength, presenting a
fictional character and also their true self, or at least a version of it. It’s
hard to look away and even harder not to feel something.
A gold
clothbound hardback, the book itself is a beautiful object in its own right,
featuring a foreword by Ellen von Unwerth who praises Cohen’s talent for
“skilfully interweaving the equally fascinating creepiness and glamour inherent
of American culture”, and an introduction by Alessia Glaviano of Vogue Italia.
Here,
Cohen discusses this project in further detail, expanding on the process of
completing the book and the women at the centre of it.
Ted
Stansfield: Please can you introduce this book?
Nadia
Lee Cohen: You might have thought I’d had enough time to think of something a
little more profound to say as a response … but here’s what I have: it’s my
first photo book and it’s incredibly special to me. It’s a book of stories
featuring people I admire in one way or another, each filling the role of an
imagined fictional narrative.
TS: It
is the result of more than six years of work. Can you tell me about the origins
of the book, the process of putting it together, and how it feels to have completed
it?
NLC:
Honestly, it’s the largest sense of relief I’ve ever felt. I probably could
have gone on for another 16 years but for a much-needed motivational
intervention. I started it in university and had the unrealistic idea that I
could complete it in a year. How wrong this was. My tastes changed both
personally and as an image-maker. Also, taking on work as a director as a means
to fund the book slowed down its progress. Though without sounding all doom and
gloom, this element in particular I think aided the creation of the imagery,
there was an elevation in terms of preconceived narrative, set design, lighting
and general character creation. The concepts were more thoughtfully conceived
like film stills rather than still images and I was no longer shooting in my
mum and dad’s shed.
The main
frustration was trying to complete the book while simultaneously attempting to
keep each image secret. This proved pretty difficult, as people would ask
’how’s the book coming?’ and I was unable to show them anything I’d shot. In a
world where we’re so used to instant recognition as a response to imagery, this
lack of validation was slightly nerve wracking in terms of wondering if what
I’d captured was worthy of a photo book.
The
pandemic played a pretty considerable part in the book’s completion. Spending
weeks inside forced me to face the daunting task of printing and arranging the
images around my LA apartment like some sort of crime scene web. Pinning notes
to them and obsessing about what needed to be altered, what was missing, have I
used this wig too many times? Etc ...
TS:
Despite the fact that the images were shot over multiple years and in multiple
locations, there’s such a strong sense of cohesion to them. How did you achieve
this?
NLC:
Thank you. The stories are pretty similar in tone, although there are differing
themes of mundanity, loss, elation, etc, there is a harmonious thread of
strength I think that unites them.
TS: What
is your relationship to these women? How did you cast them and what qualities
do you think they share?
NLC: On
a personal level, some are extremely close friends, others are people I have
only met once with the intention of photographing them for the book; together
they are all individuals that I admire in one way or another. On a fictional
level I feel incredibly connected to their respective characters. The catalyst
behind these imagined scenarios were the models themselves, in effect they were
the initial spark and inspiration for the birth and progression of each
character.
TS:
There’s such a sense of intimacy to these images. A physical intimacy, yes, but
an emotional one too. Is that fair? As a photographer, were you removed from
your subjects or were (or are) you emotionally involved?
NLC:
Emotionally involved in their fictional lives, yes. Even if the subject was a
close friend, without risk of sounding like a low-budget ’medium’, there was
perhaps a moment where we both disconnected and a new devised character entered
the room and took their place. In certain cases after the wigs, make-up and
costume design was complete we’d say shall we call them Shirley? Shall we call
them Pam? When referring to this fictional creation staring back at us. The
point is they weren’t playing themselves, I find when someone’s appearance is
altered (at times) almost beyond recognition this brings out something that
neither of you recognise in the photograph, even if you know each other very
well, that seems to be where the magic is.
TS:
Unlike a series of images of women by a male photographer, there is that sense
of involvement, I think, and empathy in this book. What is your understanding
of the female gaze and how is that expressed in this book?
NLC: It
was a collaborative process in the sense that it was important for me to
understand and empathise through each situation what the model felt comfortable
with, then together we devised a way to work that into their respective
character. I understand first-hand the vulnerability felt in posing, especially
without the comfort and barrier of clothing, so there was a mutual awareness
throughout.
TS: That
sense of understanding and empathy is also illustrated in your decision to pose
for the book yourself. Can you tell me about the thought process behind this
decision and what you hoped to achieve by doing this?
NLC: It
made the project more personal, had I chosen not to pose it might have made the
overall tone feel more voyeuristic as though I was looking inwards at this
world, rather than us all looking out.
TS: In
the pantheon of female representation in art and photography, what do you hope
this body of work stands for; what do you hope it achieves?
NLC: An
intertwining of honesty and fiction. Something that people can relate to
whether emotionally or physically. I’d like there to be some longevity in the
project, imagery in the contemporary world currently feels quite disposable and
transient. For me, a photo book surpasses this and lives with the viewer a
little longer, and might be something they pick up and look at again in years
to come.
TS: What
do you hope this project expresses about the lived experience of women today?
What issues does it raise or confront the viewer with?
NLC: It
is of course fictional, which ultimately leaves it up to the viewer’s subjective
interpretation. However, even if these scenarios are imagined, they are
ultimately based on truth and real life, there’s nothing fantastical there.
They stand as a representation of strong femininity however the individual
feels to embody that idea, and this will probably confront each viewer in a
different way.
TS: The
book ends on a sombre note, with a portrait of Elie Che, who tragically died
last September. Can you tell me the story behind this image, your memory of
Elie and why it felt right to include and conclude with this photograph of her?
NLC:
There wasn’t a sadness to this image before Elie’s death, she wanted to pose
this way as this is how she felt the most beautiful. Though now for me it has a
particular poignancy. Her death came as such a sudden shock, her close friends
and family reached out to ask that her photograph was released early to honour
her memory. The battle for trans people is ongoing, to end with her portrait
felt important – it’s not to be thought of as a conclusive ending, more of an
ongoing conversation to highlight the reality of this struggle for trans
people.
Nadia
Lee Cohen’s Powerful Portraits of Strong Femininity. By Ted Stansfield. Another,
December 9, 2020.
Women by Nadia Lee Cohen. Another, December 9,
2020
There’s
a cautiousness to Nadia Lee Cohen. The photographer-filmmaker is mindful of her
words, her associations, her 'brand'. And with 'cancelation' rife for
successful creatives (and the executioner’s axe now as menial as a popular
tweet), it’s only natural that hyper-consideration become par for the course.
But there’s more to it with Cohen. It seems as though she doesn’t fear the
fragility of her cultural clout, but that people might uncover she never had
any to begin with.
Perhaps
that’s the reason the LA-based-Brit sweats self-deprecation. Upon charting her
career highlights -- which, for the record, include a National Portrait Gallery
prize, a high fashion campaign starring Sophia Loren and a music video named
among Rolling Stone’s favorites -- she responds by comparing herself to her
contemporaries. When congratulated on her accomplishments (all by the age of
28, when most are only beginning to tackle credit card debt), Cohen counters,
“Have I [done that much]?” While it may be in the Hollywood handbook that
transplants exhibit imposter syndrome, Nadia Lee Cohen needn’t. Her work speaks
for itself.
In fact,
the only time Cohen isn’t careful is with her creative output. Upon completing
her photography degree at the London College of Fashion, she relocated to
California not to proximate to the world’s A-list, but to acclimatize to the
distinct blend of glitz and grit unique to the state — both elements that
distinguish Cohen’s style. Her visuals are low-brow and lush: swampy depictions
of relatable scenes staged beyond recognition; hedonistic-hued portraits of the
human condition that perspire debauchery, always alluding to all seven deadly
sins with unwavering consistency. The result is somehow repulsive and
compelling all at once — like a bad wax reproduction of Paris Hilton. And just
like Paris, it’s all emphatically 'Made in America'.
Thus,
instead of stargazing, the photographer’s fascination with Americana meant that
her early days in LA were spent stalking the city streets at night to shoot
without a permit, or taking long road trips with pit stops at gas stations and
99 cent stores to document the 'American Worker'. One particular expedition saw
her enter a meth den and inexplicably kicked out of a moving car, after
advertising for subjects on Craigslist -- a testament to the lengths she will
go to spotlight unseen America, and it’s underbelly.
“I loved
street casting,” she explains. “It was, 'Who can I get to shoot? That person
looks interesting…' I was never really trying to seek out jobs in the
entertainment industry, making music videos or shooting anyone famous.”
Citing
Cindy Sherman and Gillian Wearing’s comfort in “comically distorting, or even
in some cases altering, images to the point of the grotesque” as primary
inspirations, Cohen soon transitioned into self-portraits -- transforming into
various characters fashioned from the mementos she’d found on the road for one
of her most well-known projects, the pointedly probing and monstrously camp,
Name Tag.
“The
idea was very personal to me as it was my perception of who these people were,”
Cohen says. “I thought it would be more interesting to have one person
interpret and physically embody these characters -- so I did it myself.”
Consequently,
everyone knows Nadia Lee Cohen’s face and no one does. The photographer has
taken many, many selfies, but she’s rarely without wigs or prosthetics. With a
light scroll you can see her cosplay jailbirds, judges and nuns, her work
splashed across top-tier publications. It grates Cohen’s modeling agency,
Wilhelmina, that the photographer has very few images of her looking, well, normal,
but she’s just never found natural headshots as “fun”.
“It’s
really flattering when people want me in front of the camera, and it’s important
to know what it feels like,” Cohen shares of modeling. “But I also think you
have to be comfortable to show yourself, and doing those projects makes me feel
more comfortable. Spending time in front of the camera also encourages me to be
more sympathetic to subjects when I am behind it.”
With production
at a standstill due to coronavirus, Cohen has had little choice but to become
her own muse. It’s been frustrating to maintain audience engagement with
increasingly personal photos, without flooding out her professional work from
her feed. Then there’s the added pressure of her still untitled first book
arriving later this year. It’s a compilation of images spanning the course of
Cohen’s career, which mandates many of her archival photos go unpublished on
social media or news outlets. This marks the first time the project has been
officially announced (and some of the photos shared), and while originally
slated for a summer release, it has been indefinitely pushed back due to the
pandemic -- only limiting the photographer further in what she can share with
fans.
“A lot
of my friends complain about their work not getting as much attention as a
selfie,” laughs Cohen. “I think people tend to feel more of a connection to the
person from seeing a low resolution, iPhone image of them — it feels as though
they are witnessing reality rather than something curated.”
Nevertheless,
quarantine itself has treated the creative well. Despite only recently dipping
her toes in filmmaking (the 'pig police' theme of A$AP Rocky’s “Babushka Boi,”
directed by Cohen, recently recirculated on social media as a symbol for law
enforcement ineptitude in the ongoing fight against police brutality) she’s
been working on a feature concept for several years. FOMO-free due to mandated
social distancing and weeding through years of ideas, Cohen’s script is
fast-tracking. Still, a sidestep into the film industry was more
"hope" than plan.
“When I
first started making videos it was almost a test to prove to myself I could
make my photographs move and it’d be enjoyable to watch,” she says, adding that
she’s now shifted her process of conceptualizing projects from visual cues.
“[Now] I’ve been thinking about the story in a narrative way, not a visual way.
It feels unfamiliar, yet exciting.”
Right
now, the battle is maintaining focus. Cohen knows too well Instagram can suck
you into a vortex of color and self-comparison, and approaches the app with
only the utmost trepidation. Nonetheless, her relationship with social media
seems relatively healthy. In fact, she finds Instagram’s subtle inauthenticity
"comforting" — a stark contrast to the well-documented anxiety most
women experience interacting with the platform. To Cohen it’s a casting
goldmine: if she requests a “man with a round, hard belly” for a subject, one
will be procured through her direct messages in ten minutes flat. She also
counts herself lucky that her followers are there for her work first -- whether
or not it features the photographer in it.
Hence
why she so deeply values her leagues of disciples. Subscribing to Nadia Lee
Cohen’s universe is to embrace her perversely glamorous alternate reality, with
triple-breasted women and satanic television personalities all in technicolor.
She might cast a gaggle of middle-aged playmates to actualize the Valley Of The
Dolls’ men-less utopia of her dreams (for the last ever winter issue of
Playboy) one moment, and make out with Danny Trejo the next. As such, her
professional fantasy is not necessarily the praise of Scorsese, but merely the
industry’s price of admission: a full cinema, there just for her. When you
extract the extraordinary from the American everyday, it’s the reaction of the
‘every man’ that means the most.
“There's
certainly people I admire and their opinion of my work would matter to me,” she
concludes thoughtfully. “But I think I’d always imagine showing something to an
audience… just a room full of people watching something I’ve made.”
The
world according to Nadia Lee Cohen. By Beatrice Hazlehurst. i-D, June 25, 2020
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