My Choice of Films, distributed in The Netherlands in 2022. Seen in cinemas and on streaming platforms.
The
Northman, directed by Robert Eggers, United States of America, China, United
Kingdom, 2022.
The
Northman is a retelling of the Scandinavian legend of Amleth (which also
inspired William Shakespeare’s Hamlet).
After witnessing the murder of his father and kidnapping of his mother at the
hands of his uncle, young Amleth escapes his home and vows to avenge his
father. Many years later, the adult Amleth, now a Viking warrior, embarks on
his life’s mission to exact revenge on his uncle and save his mother.
“Man’s hubris in nature is a running theme in
your work. What was it like living that out on set when filming in Iceland?
I have a
19th century romantic landscape painter's relationship [with nature] where I'm
in awe, and I'm very cognizant that it could kill me. There's something
thrilling about that, of course. We were looking for the most punishing, brutal
landscapes we could find, with the worst weather available and the most mud and
rain and misery. I'm not a masochist towards myself, nor a sadist towards my
collaborators, but it is what's needed to tell a story.
I mean,
drizzle doesn't photograph. So virtually any scene that's overcast, it's
raining, whether it looks like it's raining or not. It was raining the entire
time. I had to do, for Vanity Fair, the hardest day on set, and I was like,
"There were one or two days that weren't hard."
Alex can
tell you about how miserable it was shooting the naked volcano fight at night.
But that's the thing. If you're not shooting a raid of a village, you're
shooting a storm at sea, at night on a Viking ship. Everything was pretty
intense.
I hesitate to apply modern concepts to
historical time periods, but The Witch is read as a movie about female
ascendancy and The Lighthouse, about toxic masculinity. I know you’ve talked
about how you don’t sit down with those concepts in mind when you’re writing,
but both of them do reappear in The Northman. In this case, did you write them
in?
No. I
really do try to present this stuff without judgment. I was doing press in
Paris. The first journalist who I sat down with, challenged that idea by
saying, "Well, you only allude to sexual violence. You don't show any
sexual violence, which tells me, as an audience member, something about
you."
But then
when we're talking about other violence, that was another thing that was tricky
to consider. Because again, it's based on Icelandic sagas, which read like '80s
action movies sometimes—complete with one-liners like, "That's what I call
a headache." It's a culture that glorifies and celebrates violence. And
I'm making a big action set piece tentpole movie. So there's times when the
violence needs to literally be thrilling. But I don't want to be condoning
violence or glorifying violence. So how do I walk that line as a storyteller?
Do you have any interest in ever making a movie
set in modern times?
No thank
you.
What's the next historical setting you're
looking into?
Well,
The New Yorker said I was writing something Elizabethan. So there you go. But
I've written all kinds of things that haven't gotten made. And I'll write a lot
more that will and won't get made. I mean, every time period interests me
except for the one we're living in.
Why’s that?
I get
enough of the kitchen sink in my kitchen sink. But let me just say this. I've
established a routine for telling stories that is about doing all this
historical research. I literally like the act of researching. It's not just for
me, it's for an end, but I love it. And it occupies a massive amount of time
and brain space for me when I'm making a film.
If I was
making a contemporary film, what am I supposed to do with myself? Obsess over
wallpaper swatches, until my eyes fall out? It's just not interesting. For
whatever reason, it just does not inspire me. And you can't shoot something
that doesn't inspire you.
It was
hard for me and [cinematographer] Jarin [Blaschke] to get into the Knattleikr
[an early Viking ball game] sequence, because we were the losers in school, and
we didn't play sports, and we never were interested in it. We got there, and I
like the sequence, but I could never get passionate about photographing a cell
phone. “
GQ,
April 20, 2022.
Corsage,
directed by Marie Kreutzer, Austria, Luxembourg, Germany, France, 2022
Empress
Elizabeth of Austria is idolized for her beauty and renowned for inspiring
fashion trends. But in 1877, ‘Sissi’ celebrates her 40th birthday and must
fight to maintain her public image by lacing her corset tighter and tighter.
While Elizabeth’s role has been reduced against her wishes to purely
performative, her hunger for knowledge and zest for life makes her more and
more restless in Vienna. She travels to England and Bavaria, visiting former
lovers and old friends, seeking the excitement and purpose of her youth. With a
future of strictly ceremonial duties laid out in front of her, Elizabeth rebels
against the hyperbolised image of herself and comes up with a plan to protect
her legacy.
“There's
a line maybe halfway through the film I love when she's being photographed and
she talks about not liking being photographed because they claim to be
objective, but nothing is objective. That made me think about how in the last
several years, there have been some iconic women who've had these biopics, for
lack of a better word, that aren't necessarily straight biopics; they're really
playing with the myth of them. Like "Spencer" or "Jackie."
This one, in particular, really plays with her mythology. Do you have any
thoughts on this concept of women who we have an idea of who they are, but now
we're able to sort of play with that a bit with research or just with our
creativity?
I think
these are all characters that have something in common. The image of the
beautiful, sad woman who suffered from whatever, but mostly the man on her
side, and then is not really able to move because there's this position she's
in, which demands this and that. So she's not free to make her own choices. I
think because they are beautiful, and because they're all sad, and because you
cannot look behind the doors and you don't know what's really going on, you
just protect so much onto them. I think that's why these characters are always
good for stories because we always want to hear about them again and again and
again.
And
yeah, of course, when you then go into that and make a film about a character
like that, you can fill in the blank however you like. You can just make it
your story. When I read the biographies, they were all different in a way. The
way she was described has so much to do with the time that book was written in
and the person who wrote it. Was it a man? Was it a woman? Was it in the 1950s?
Was it now? It depends so much on that. It was also never objective. You think
it's a biography, and a historian wrote it, so it must be objective, but it
never is. That freed me. I felt like I could do my own thing entirely because I
will never do it right.
It's not
possible to make the perfect film about someone who actually lived. There will
always be people who will say no, that's not correct. So that's important. I
let that go right away. I always say I think I tried to stay true to what I
read about her character or what I sensed when I read about her. Not true to
the facts.
Sometimes
I get the question, was your film trying to be the opposite of the old films?
Were you trying to make it extra different? Or what were you trying to provoke?
This was never my intention. What I read about this woman, I tried to show
within my own storyline, but I tried to stay true to the character that I think
she had, who she was. “
I found her meeting with Louis Le Prince
(Finnegan Oldfield) really fascinating because he's a person who is the
opposite of Sissi. His life story is not well known. The end of his life was so
mysterious that people are still debating how he died. How did you decide to
bring him into the story?
I
stumbled across him somewhere; I don't even remember why I read about him. But
when I was at film school, nobody ever told me about him. I always thought it
started with the Brothers Lumière. I was like, who is this guy? I read what was
to be found on the internet, which was not so much. Initially, this had nothing
to do with "Corsage." Maybe it was at the same time. I don't even
remember that right. I also don't remember how he found his way into the script
because when I'm writing, I'm my own black box. I'm on my own. I listen to
music. I have my mood boards. There's writing and rewriting. It's very
intuitive, and I cannot really describe it. Afterward, I very often don't know
how things developed or came into the script. So I really don't know that anymore.
But now
I would say I loved the idea of the meeting. I love the idea of bending
history, which I didn't do on many levels. And I liked that it was possible for
her to see another image of herself than the one she was used to. The one she
was used to would always be the beautiful Empress standing still for painting.
Then there's this totally different medium, and she's able to move and able to
maybe be herself in front of that camera. So it was about that because I focus
very much on her struggling with her own image, with her own oversized image
all the time. Then, being able to see another image of herself, maybe it would
have been possible, in a way, to also be someone else.”
Roger Ebert.com, December 26, 2022.
Decision
to Leave, original title: Heojil
kyolshim, directed by Park Chan-Wook, South Korea, 2022.
From a
mountain peak in South Korea, a man plummets to his death. Did he jump, or was
he pushed? When detective Hae-joon arrives on the scene, he begins to suspect
the dead man’s wife Seo-rae. But as he digs deeper into the investigation, he
finds himself trapped in a web of deception and desire.
“AVC : In taking us through Detective Hae-jun’s
investigative process, most filmmakers would have shown flashbacks when he
imagines a crime scene in his mind. But you show us in parallel exactly what he
sees in the moment.
PCW: If
this was just about the investigation process, this film would’ve turned out
differently. But it is both an investigation process and a romance film. Those
two processes are a unified process, which is why I made those choices. Love is
the most immediate and important emotion that we can feel. You could tell the
story through logical realizations of a flashback, but I thought it was more
important to lean in on that momentary, step-by-step emotion.
The only
exception would be the last scene when Hae-jun thinks, “I never said the words
I love you.” And he finds the answer to that mystery through a flashback when
he’s listening to the recorded voice. Solving a mystery is usually about other
people, but in this case, he’s listening to his own voice and solving out his
own mystery. And he comes to a late realization that he had so much pride in
his occupation as a policeman. But after he finds out that Seo-rae is a
murderer, he lets her get away and even tells her to get rid of the important
piece of evidence. So by abandoning that pride in his occupation is a thousand
times more powerful than I love you.”
AVC:
Your films always have a sly sense of humor. Even when we’re watching something
graphic or tragic, the humor is there. What’s your philosophy about using humor
in general in your stories?
PCW: I
don’t know if I should call this a philosophy per se. When I’m watching other
films or just meeting people throughout my daily life, I always find something
comical and humorous in that situation. I savor it, I find happiness in discovering
the humor in them. This is the same for when I’m reading literature as well.
Even in works that most people find very serious and dark, I somehow find the
humor. It’s very easy to find humor [in] Kurt Vonnegut. But I also find humor
in Dostoyevsky.
And it’s
the same for when I’m meeting people. This is different from laughing at them.
I just somehow find a humorous element in our conversations, regardless of
whether it was intended. I think the same mechanism works when I’m making my
films. This is a method to express the totality of life. With just feeling
weak, sad, angry, horrified, or happy, something feels missing with those
emotions. And if I’m merely expressing those emotions, I feel like I’m
enforcing a particular emotion on the audience. That’s why you need a sense of
distance, an objectivity, but you need the right amount or else you’ll get
pushed out of that story. So there’s some form of attachment, but there’s also
a little bit of distance.
What is
the fine line between the distance and attachment? That’s something I care most
about when I’m making my films. And it’s also one of the most difficult
challenges. But if you have the right amount, you can have sympathy towards the
characters while having objectivity. And then you can easily find comical
moments within these characters. For instance, when the male character says to
the female character, “I like you for your straight posture,” there’s something
humorous about the serious attitude in which he says this. So you laugh when
you have expected him to say something very elaborate and sweet, because
instead he stoically says, “Oh, just the posture is what I like about you.”
It’s funny, but also understandable. It makes sense that he finds an attractiveness
through the posture. So you also find a bit of empathy in that. “
AV Club,
October 17, 2022
.
Wheel of
Fortune and Fantasy, original title Gûzen to sôzô, directed by Ryûsuke Hamaguchi, Japan, 2021.
A
triptych about coincidence and connection. In the first part we follow a model
who makes a discovery about her ex, in part two a student tries to seduce her
professor, and in the finale a woman who meets her sweetheart after a school
reunion.
“All your films seem to carry a specific
reference: Ozu in Happy Hour, Hitchcock in Asako I & II, Hong and Rohmer
(and maybe Kiyoshi Kurosawa) in Wheel of Fortune and Fantasy... Are these intentional?
Or is it just a matter of works that are always with you, unconsciously, when
you film?
I don’t think I specifically refer to Ozu in
Happy Hour, or to Hitchcock in Asako I & II. But while, in a way, Ozu’s
influence runs throughout my work, I hardly ever think of Hitchcock when I make
a film. For Wheel of Fortune and Fantasy, however, I referred to Eric Rohmer.
This was surely because I needed a basis to work on a different approach to
shoot short stories. The main source of inspiration came from the interview I
did with Mary Stephen, who’s the editor of the work related to the second part
of Rohmer’s career. Rohmer’s influence on my film is therefore inevitable and
substantial. On the contrary, Hong Sang-soo is a director I respect, but if there
are any similarities between us, they mostly come from our common love for
Rohmer.
For me,
watching and making films is a continuous cycle, so in addition to the names
mentioned, I always have many directors on my mind. However, I think that at
the moment I would not be able to create a film from another film. Even the
great filmmakers who came before us made their works from reality, not from a
film, and that is what I would like to do.
The Japanese title of Wheel of Fortune and
Fantasy is Concidence and Imagination... Chance is a very important element in
your cinema. Is this a literary aspect, or is it something you see deeply
connected to life?
I don’t know to what extent the literary
component is linked to my work, since I don't consider myself an avid reader.
But I feel that using the “power of words” in films, especially in today’s
Japan, is important.
The
fundamental power of words is to “separate”. There are words used to
temporarily define (or end up defining) vague feelings of the individual, or
our relationship with others. Generally speaking, for the Japanese individual
it is preferable not to put one's feelings into words as, in doing so, one
might end up defining the “self” in a way, thus separating from others. In
Japanese society the fact of making otherness explicit beyond necessity (i.e.
underlining that you and I are different) leads to a certain “difficulty in
living”. However, I think that in each individual’s own life such moments
should exist. A society that is founded on the repression of individuality will
continue to require the same behaviour from everyone. In this, however, there
is an even more substantial “difficulty of living”. Thus, expressing oneself in
words becomes a way for the individual to remain within society while at the
same time manifesting one's “otherness”. I believe that this could be the
starting point to get society moving again. I’m afraid this might be the reason
why Japanese cinema makes very few films when people talk a lot.
Coincidence is always a matter of time. I
believe that time - the passing of time - is a very important element in your
cinema...
I don’t know if what I’m going to say will
answer the question, however what we call “chance” denotes an unusual
situation. Unusual means that it will happen at most once in a long period of
time. The two-hour duration of a movie is certainly too short of a time to
allow this to happen. However, if you insert a caption that reads, for example,
“5 years later”, it becomes easier to introduce randomness, because it will
appear in the story as something acceptable to the viewers.
And,
yet, it cannot be said that this is enough to represent chance, as our lives
actually abound with random events and the reason they do not have enough
influence on us - the reason we ignore chance - is that these coincidences are
often completely irrelevant. If we can keep the influence of these random
events at a sufficiently low level we can accomplish something following our
intentions and plans. The things we do this way, however, become “routine”,
which can lead to turning our existences into a closed space. We end up shaping
our social lives by letting chance pass us by.
Randomness
is fundamental to escape the daily routine - the time that always recurs the
same - and to make the only life that we have truly unique. This is not easy,
however, because social life is made up by the synthesis of routines.
Eric
Rohmer once spoke of “becoming accustomed to chance”. This is an expression I
love. Coincidences can happen many times, they are not rare, because each of us
lives within a recurring routine. We can appear to others in the form of chance
and become ‘chance’ ourselves. Sometimes, our routines come into contact and at
that very moment, if we try to open our routine to the other's, we will observe
a small renewal in our lives.
Chance
is unusual not because it happens occasionally, but because it is rare to have
the courage to accept it by undoing our routines. Answering your question I
realized that Wheel of Fortune and Fantasy could be read just like a movie that
shows the (thin) courage of the characters who accept, love and want to renew
their lives.
As a
closing remark, I would like to add that it was the reality I saw through the
camera during filming that made me process this way of understanding chance.”
Film Parlato, August 23, 2021.
Licorice
Pizza, directed by Paul Thomas Anderson,
United States of America, Canada, 2021
Licorice
Pizza follows the precarious romance between Alana Kane. a 25-year-old woman
who works for a high school yearbook photography company, and Gary Valentine, an endearing 15-year-old
who attained minor fame as a child actor in 1970s Hollywood. Set in the San Fernando Valley, 1973 the film tracks the treacherous navigation of
first love.
“Alfred Hitchcock meticulously storyboarded
his films, so he said his job was largely done before actors ever arrived on
set. Are you like that?
I have a
plan, but it’s not overly planned. The benefit of shooting in my neighborhood
on a movie like this is I have a rough sketch of what it might be like. But
then, of course, you arrive, and there’s 200 kids standing in line waiting to
get their picture taken, and it becomes a real live breathing thing. It’s like
a dinosaur tail getting away from you. You just try to wrestle it into your
frame or go whichever direction it’s going. It never had appeal to me — the
idea of knowing every bit before you start. There always must be some room for
discovery.
Do you write your movies with actors in mind?
Mostly.
I like to work with people I’ve worked with before. At this point it’s becoming
harder to do this work with someone that you don’t know intimately, deeply, on
a personal level. It’s too hard to do this work without having more than just a
passing relationship.
In the case of Alana Haim, who plays Alana, you’ve
made music videos for Haim, the rock band she’s in with her sisters, but she’s
never acted. What made you think of her?
This was
a story that was very specific to the San Fernando Valley. That was important
in terms of casting. It’s like if you’re going to tell a story in New York, you
hire Marisa Tomei. Alana looks like a girl from the Valley; she talks like a
girl from the Valley; she is a girl from the Valley. She has a ferociousness.
She’s very eager and she’s a quick learner. I don’t know how many more boxes
you can tick. In the movie, she starts off as the stable one, who has more
years under her belt, but it slowly emerges that she’s wobbly and unstable and
impulsive and angry and trapped and incredibly immature.
You cast Cooper Hoffman, the son of the late
Philip Seymour Hoffman, as Gary. Has he made movies before?
Cooper
had years and years and years of experience under his belt of making home
movies with me and my family. Generally, they are action-oriented films where
he’d get beaten up as the bad guy by my son who heroically throws him off a
cliff or shoots him in the face. Besides that, he’d not acted in a professional
way. I didn’t write it for him. I wrote it for a blurry 15- or 16-year-old boy.
I never imagined when I was writing it that it would be Cooper. I thought that
I would take the more traditional route and pursue a young actor. There were a
few I met that were talented, but most of them already seemed at a young age to
be overly trained, overly mannered and overly ambitious, which was not
interesting to me. “
Variety,
November 10, 2021.
Les
Olympiades, directed by Jacques Audiard,
France 2021.
Set in
Paris’s 13th arrondissement, Les Olympiades (named after the complex of towers
in the middle of the 13th) is a thoroughly 21st-century love story: Émilie
meets Camille who is attracted to Nora who herself crosses Amber’s path. The
three girls and one boy become friends, sometimes lovers, often both. Based on
the critically-acclaimed graphic novel Killing and Dying by American Adrian
Tomine, it is beautifully shot in black and white, and is daring, sexy and
elegant in its exploration of what it means to be in love in the modern world. Each
of the characters is experiencing some level of disillusionment but by the end
of the film, they seem to have learned something about who they really are and
what they really desire and love.
“I find it interesting that after you leave
France to make a film about the American West—even though it was shot in
Europe—you follow it up with what feels to me like your most urban film. Did
The Sisters Brothers give you any unexpected insights into how a landscape can
imprint itself on people and influence their behavior?
If there
are no horses in Paris, 13th District, it’s because I made The Sisters Brothers
before it. As Truffaut said, usually when you make a film, it’s contrary to the
previous one. And I think that in that film I was focusing on opening all the
drawers for action: men, horses, violence. But once I started to close them,
others opened: women, a nicer landscape, love. So, yes, it’s the process of
going from one to the opposite. Also, I’ve wanted to make a film about the way
we speak about love, the way we speak love. I’ve wanted to make a film about
that for a while.
“Why so specifically the 13th arrondissement
when adapting Adrian Tomine’s text? From my research, it seems like location
came before the characters.
It
wasn’t really that I had chosen the place first, but I did live in the 13th
arrondissement for more than 10 years. I found that it was possibly the most
modern neighborhood because in recent eras it had undergone urban renewal. A
lot of new buildings were built, a lot of high-rises were all around, and there
was a kind of new architecture that gave it a different look from perhaps the
rest of Paris. And I had the feeling that while I was shooting there, I was
shooting something that was very Parisian. But, at the same time when you’re
there, you also have a feeling that you’re not in Paris. The black and white
also helped me a lot with that.
There’s a certain romanticized view of Paris in
black and white from the Nouvelle Vague, and even some more contemporary images
that are consciously showing something grimier in films like La Haine. Are you
conscious of how your black and white Paris fits into the larger body of
cinematic images of the city?
I love
my city, but I understand that Paris has certain photogenic limits to it. It
has a closed-in feeling. It almost has a museum-like quality to it. There are
not a lot of different perspectives that you can get as you move around the
city. I think that when I was doing this, I wasn’t filming it thinking about
putting it in a context of other films that have been filmed in black and
white. I mean, for me, what I wanted to do is shoot a modern story. My
characters are evolving, and they’re evolving in a modern city, which happens
to be Paris. I wanted to avoid that nostalgia that sometimes goes along with
that idea when you film in black and white. I think one of the things that also
helps with this is Rone’s music. Because it’s electronic, very modern, and fits
in with that concept of Paris as being a very modern city. I think when you
film in black and white, there’s always a danger that there’s a kind of
preciousness and nostalgia to it. I wanted to avoid this. I neither wanted to
be precious nor nostalgic.
Slant,
April 14, 2022.
Petrov’s
Flu, original title Petrovy v grippe,
directed by Kirill Serebrennikov, Russia, France, Germany, Switzerland, 2021.
Petrov,
a weary cartoonist, his wife Petrova, librarian, and their infant son struggle
with high fever. Petrov wanders through the drab, impoverished city, delirious
and lost in delusions. The seemingly calm Petrova emerges as a deadly fantasy
superheroine who kills all who displease her. Petrov's Flu is an anarchic mix
of reality and fantasy, a feverish satire of the arduous life in the
post-Soviet Union, where a cynical oligarchy tramples on the rights of ordinary
citizen.
“DEADLINE
: I saw Petrov’s Flu late in the evening and then dreamt about it all night,
and I’m still thinking about it today. There’s a lot to unpick there – walk us
through your thought process behind making this movie.
SEREBRENNIKOV:
The novel was highly acclaimed, it won all possible Russian literature awards.
Ilya [Stewart, producer] bought the rights, but how do you work with this very
strange book? It’s surreal and multi-layered, complicated, but extraordinary
literature in terms of language. It’s such a pity that you can’t read it in its
original language, it’s a masterpiece. So how to transform it into a movie?
I was
under house arrest and Ilya told me, ‘you have a lot of time, could you think
about how to do something with it?’ I jumped into it and it grabbed me
completely. It is poetry, the author is a poet who started to write prose, the
construction of the text is poetic – and cinema is poetry.
The
producers loved the script and started to look for a director to make it. But
then my circumstances changed, I was released, and I had time to work. And then
my trial started, I said, ‘let’s do it anyway’. I had a month or two months without
sleeping – part of the day was the trial and then we shot at night. The days
were short. The crew and actors understood what was happening and helped a lot.
DEADLINE:
How restrictive was that period? Were you able to shoot without concerns?
SEREBRENNIKOV:
Russia is crazy, being here is high adrenaline. As Russians say, everything
that won’t kill us makes us stronger. It gives us strength to overcome this
situation and to work.
DEADLINE:
The film has an unconventional narrative structure, does that come from the
book or is that your interpretation?
SEREBRENNIKOV:
It’s both really. It was an opportunity to put a special lens on our reality.
The film covers several different times. Our childhood is mainly black and
white (a portion of the film is shot in black and white), that’s visible in our
family pictures. In my memory I have very bright moments and they are very
colorful, that’s why I decided to add the third colorful layer from the point
of view of Petrov as a child. Different times and different feelings.”
Deadline,
July 9, 2021.
The Card
Counter, directed by Paul Schrader, United
States of America, United Kingdom, China, Sweden, 2021.
William
Tell, a gambler and former serviceman, just wants to play cards. His spartan
existence on the casino trail is shattered when he is approached by Cirk, a
vulnerable and angry young man seeking help to execute his plan for revenge on
a retired military major. Tell sees a chance at redemption through his
relationship with Cirk. Gaining backing from mysterious gambling financier La
Linda, Tell takes Cirk with him on the road, going from casino to casino until
the unlikely trio set their sights on winning the World Series of Poker in Las
Vegas. But keeping Cirk on the straight-and-narrow proves impossible, dragging
Tell back into the darkness of his past.
“As you’ve said, Card Counter hits on many of
the same themes as your previous work. More broadly, you’re referencing films
like Bresson's Diary of a Country Priest and Pickpocket, but also Taxi Driver,
American Gigolo, Light Sleeper, and First Reformed. At this point in your
career, are you still referencing those original films that inspired you, or
are you referencing yourself?
You're
looking for an interesting problem and an interesting metaphor. Which comes
first is sort of uncertain. I was looking at poker on television. I said,
"Well that's an interesting metaphor, what kind of person does that?"
They have commercials where they show people having fun in casinos, but I've
never seen anybody have any fun in casinos. It’s like going into the zombie
zone, a kind of purgatory.
I
realized that this is a man who is hiding from life, because of something he's
done. And what can be so great? He can't just be a murderer, he has to have
done something that shamed the nation, something that cannot be forgiven. And
then I thought about Abu Ghraib. I started putting those two pieces together,
and the problem started to define itself—that we live in a culture where no one
is really responsible for anything. "I didn't lie, I misspoke."
"I didn't break the law, I made a mistake." "I didn't touch that
woman, I just had bad judgment." I come from a culture where it's just the
opposite, where you're responsible for everything. I sort of imagined myself as
someone who did something that can't be forgiven. He went to jail, but he still
hasn't been punished enough. And what did he do? How does he keep punishing
himself?
I'm curious about your decision to show the
torture scenes, instead of just alluding to his past.
I mean,
I don't really show it, if you compare it to Zero Dark Thirty or some other
films. It's a nightmare, so this is the torture of memory. And I needed
something in the story to raise the stakes of everything, because the viewer
started to figure out the level at which this is working. I had no desire to
compete with films that have done Abu Ghraib. But I needed to show the viewer
this memory. As he says, "This weight can never be removed." Also,
it's important to understand he's not apologizing. And that's really kind of
chilling when you think about these acts, because people who do them are always
looking for an excuse, and he just says it was in him and, to some degree, it's
in all of us.
Were there specific real-life analogues
involved in Abu Ghraib, like Lynndie England, who you studied for the character
of Bill?
Charles
Graner, who has now fallen off the map. We would have heard if he had died, but
obviously he has changed his name and he’s somewhere else. He was in for, I
think, six and a half years at Leavenworth. So I didn’t base it on him, per se,
but the fact that there was such a person, gives you the kind of freedom to
imagine it, as opposed to someone saying, "It could've never
happened."
GQ,
September 7, 2021.
Hit the
Road, original title Jaddeh Khaki, directed by Panah Panahi, Iran, 2021.
Seatbelt…
Mirrors… Handbrake… Clutch… Father, leg in plaster on the back seat, growls
driving instructions. His hyperenergetic young son dances and jumps around the
car. They bicker about the ill dog in the trunk, but from the passenger seat
mother mainly tries to keep things light. The eldest son drives this unruly
group – to which he doesn’t seem to entirely belong – in silence, through broad
Iranian landscapes. Using visual humour and a prominent soundtrack, that
combines Bach with nostalgic Iranian pop songs, the film paints a sensitive
portrait of a family desperately trying to postpone the pain of an impending
farewell.
"Filmmaker:
You’ve said in interviews that you have seen acquaintances smuggled across the
border into Turkey. Can you tell me what that experience was like?
Panahi:
Two or three of my friends have left the country through Turkey. Later, they
described in detail their departure from the moment they left Tehran to the
freeways they took to the cities they visited and the manner in which the
smugglers behaved, how they would have to use the skin of sheep. So in the film
I tried to use the geographic logic as it was described to me. I would visit
certain regions, I would talk to people, and I would get more detail from them
as well.
Filmmaker:
Despite this being a story about a young man trying to escape Iran, the film is
rather charming and joyful. It’s not an issue drama. Why was it important to
you to tell this story with such a light touch?
Panahi:
This might have to do with my outlook toward cinema and the type of person I
am. In cinema and drama, there’s always a back and forth. When you have a
paradox, you can point to something and then point to its opposite. Then your
knowledge and understanding becomes more complete. This might have to do with
my own character. If something serious happens to me, I try to make a joke
about it. This could be a defense mechanism on my part. This might also have to
do with my outlook on paradoxes; if there is something that causes unhappiness
I should put something next to it that brings joy.
Filmmaker:
The film includes a number of scenes where the family dances and sings along to
pre-revolutionary Iranian pop songs by Delkash and Shahram Shabpareh. What drew
you to pre-revolutionary music for this story?
Panahi:
When it comes time to say goodbye, one is overcome with a sense of nostalgia.
All Iranians have this common memory of going on trips as children and
listening to these songs. Also, one has to look at the fate of these singers
and what happened to them after the revolution. It’s the same fate that awaits
the young man in the film.
Filmmaker:
This use of music and the dancing are details the censors would not love
either. Do you think Hit the Road has any chance of playing in theaters in
Iran?
Panahi:
Honestly, I can only hope that their view toward this kind of music will change
and that the film will have a chance for exhibition. One can only be hopeful. “
Filmmaker Magazine, April 22, 2022.
Compartment
6, Original title Hytti Nro 6, directed by Juho Kuosmanen, Finland, Russia, Estonia,
Germany, 2021.
Finnish
student Laura flees love and life in Moscow. She takes the train towards
Murmansk and during the long journey is forced to share her carriage with the
Russian miner Ljoha with whom she seems to have nothing in common at first
sight.
“Cineuropa:
What attracted you to Rosa Liksom’s novel and made you want to turn it into a
film?
Juho
Kuosmanen: I think the starting points were the scenery, the train, Russia and
the human connection between these two very different characters. The book has
a Finnish protagonist, so as a Finn, I feel I have the licence to do it. I was
fascinated to be able to make a film on Russian soil; it’s a country I’ve
visited many times, also by train, to Saint Petersburg, to Moscow, and even to
Ulaanbaatar, so I got to see a lot of it. I like the way the country looks, I
like the people, I like trains, and I really like train films.
Speaking of Ulaanbaatar, this is actually where
Laura, the protagonist, goes in the book. This is one of the things you change
in the film, as she goes to Murmansk instead. Why this alteration?
Well, I
like to say that Compartment No. 6 the film is inspired by Compartment No. 6
the book, rather than being an adaptation of it. For Murmansk, I felt the
coldness and the proximity to the sea make it a place where it’s easy to
breathe. I felt that if we ended the film a long way away in Mongolia, even if
there are huge and impressive landscapes, it’s mainly sand, and I felt that
there should be lots of air and light at the end, something refreshing. We
scouted Ulaanbaatar in the preparations, but we also took a look at the
Murmansk route to see if it could pose as something that looked like the
Trans-Siberian Railway. But then I just felt: if we’re shooting this route, why
should we pretend it’s another one? To me, the story doesn’t deal with any
specific place; it deals with a long journey. And I always like to remember a
good rule that some wise film person said: try to lie as little as possible.
How easy was it to get permission to shoot on
the train, at the stations and so on?
It was
incredibly hard. Not for me, personally, during shooting, but for the location
manager, the line producer and their colleagues. They had to work with the
Russian train authorities, asking for permission to rent the train, to use
their tracks, to get them to schedule it for us. In the beginning, the Russian
producers advised against doing it this way: they thought the idea was
downright stupid, which I totally understand from their point of view. But from
my perspective, I’m not fond of control. I like to have a plan, but then I also
like to see what I can get out of that plan in the moment.
The story in the book takes place in the Soviet
era, but you have moved it forward into the Russian one. Why this change?
Again:
try to lie as little as possible. We would have had to build Soviet scenery,
but this way, we could just show things as they basically look today. Also, the
book, I feel, deals with the Soviet Union as a state of mind, rather than a
country, so I also wanted to avoid this geographical-political frame, which I
think would have been distracting. What I want you to look at are these two
human beings, without any topical comments on time or place. “
Cineuropa,
July 12, 2021.
The
Wonder, directed by Sebastián Lelio, Ireland, United Kingdom, United States of
America, 2022.
Set
shortly after the Great Famine, it follows Lib Wright, an English nurse sent to
a rural Irish village to observe a young 'fasting girl', who is seemingly able
to miraculously survive without eating. Is
she a miracle or is something more sinister going on? Lib is taking care of
Anna.
“I love this mysterious, intriguing film; it
has so much to say and so much on its mind, spiritually, emotionally, and
politically. Tell me all about it and what struck a chord in you about the book
that made you think it could be a movie.
When I
read “The Wonder, I was trapped in it. My first connection was with the two
women at the story’s center— the nurse and the young girl. I felt that link;
that relationship was unique and very moving. So, at first, it was my emotional
connection with the story, especially the journey that the nurse, Florence’s
character, has to go through. Her character is the rationalist that faces this
community where there is a lot of religious fervor or fanaticism even and
progressively falls in love maternally with the girl.
And she
uses reason to uncover whatever is going on in this situation— whether there is
a hoax or not. But by the time she understands the mechanics with which the
girl is being kept alive, the story reveals why the girl is making the
sacrifice, and the reasons are so devastating that the nurse is trapped
emotionally. Because by then, she’s already deeply connected to a girl, and
she’s facing a moral dilemma. Does she have the right to intervene at this
point?
And so
the fact that her solution somehow transcends reason— it’s really what captured
me because she is a scientist, someone who acts out of logic. Therefore, she
has elasticity and adaptability— as opposed to many of the community that has
immovable truths and operate from that position, which is the definition of
fanaticism.
Indeed!
Florence’s
character is a woman capable of— or that discovers that— she is capable of
responding to life with an act full of contradiction but also full of life. And
that journey was a beautiful one to portray in a film. And then, conceptually,
I thought it was great to explore the power of fiction, both in our lives,
stories we need, and because we tell ourselves stories. We tell ourselves about
ourselves, or there are stories that we inherit or co-create. And religion and
ideology— how they become political power and how those dynamics operate within
society. Hopefully, ultimately it’s about the power of fiction in cinema too.
So, yeah, it was a very rich territory. So, I had to say yes to this movie.
Ha, yes, you’re articulating precisely what I
love about this movie. And I love the marriage of all these conceptual,
emotional, and spiritual ideas and how they all fit together. The Bible is
essentially a big fictional fable anyhow, and storytelling in itself is an act
of faith because we have to suspend our disbelief, which is a crucial element
to experiencing cinema too. So it feels like you’re commenting on storytelling
while telling your story.
Well,
thank you. And yes, it has always been said that the mechanisms of believing
that cinema can trigger and activate when it’s powerful are very similar or the
same ones that we use to believe in whatever we believe. So there is a deep
relationship between cinema and faith.
And in a
story about the power of fiction in our lives and societies, I wanted to find a
way for the film itself, as an object, to be part of the problem. And for the
viewer as someone interacting with that fictional mechanism to be actively
participating. To be aware that they were going to be exposed to the power of
fiction and they were going to observe characters deeply believing in their
stories, most of them by default, stories by default or inherited stories.
And then
also observing some characters that have the audacity to confront the mandate
of the community and come up with the wrong chosen story, which is something
that has always interested me thematically. In a certain way, “A Fantastic
Woman” is also about that. Right. So, the breathing rhythm that the film
has—you are watching a movie, and then you will forget that, that you’re
watching a film, and then you’re kindly reminded that you were believing just
like the characters were believing. I thought all was important to depict, and
especially because I think what’s very 2022 about the film is precisely that.
We’re in a post-factual era, where the main casualty is what’s real or the
truth. What we believe in, it’s essential, and it’s clearly political. In the
era of Twitter, who are you believing in? What are you believing in? Do you
believe in something you inherited, or have you really thought about it? And so
I think it’s a way of saying to the viewer, I know you are responsible for what
you are believing. It’s saying, please be aware, don’t just fall asleep in the
film’s seduction. Have an active and yet hopefully pleasurable participation in
the whole game."
The
Playlist, December 23, 2022.
L‘Evénement,
directed by Audrey Diwan, France, 2021.
An
adaptation of Annie Ernaux's novel of the same name, looking back on her
experience with abortion when it was still illegal in France in the 1960s.
“The
film is structured as a reverse countdown, racing against an ambiguous clock.
What was the thought behind making time this almost physical force in the film?
There
was a sentence in the book — I’m going to badly translate it. To summarize, it
was like, “Time wasn’t day-by-day, going to school and taking lessons. It has
become something growing inside of me.” Time, this weird thing growing inside
of you. I was like, "Ok, so, it's a body horror movie, this sentence,
somehow."
In the
first version of the screenplay, I thought, "If she's in a hurry, I'm
going to make very short sequences." And then I realized that I must do
the exact opposite. Time is simply time for everybody else, except for her.
She's in her emergency, and we know it; we're connected to her as an audience
because we know the timeline of pregnancy. But the rest of the youths have no
idea, and they all take their time. It's the difference between those two time
schedules that makes us feel how she feels.
It's
relativity for women — those weeks exclude us from the rest of the world, time
becomes secret inside your own body ... I wanted to think about this specific
moment that takes you out of the world, out of time as the rest of the world
experiences it.
Most of
the other characters of Anne’s age are sex-obsessed and talk a lot about sex,
but also insisted that they’d never actually had sex. It sort of felt like she
was the only person depicted in the film who was honest about her desires. Why
was that?
The way
we talk about sex and pleasure is always full of hypocrisy. We worked a lot on
that idea with my co-writer, Marcia Romano, because I wanted it to appear
slowly. At first, it's only girls talking. Then it's one [pornographic] image
[Anne’s classmates share]. Then it's a girl who imitates masturbation. And then
my character is ready to embrace the idea of her own pleasure … I think this is
something beautiful, but not everyone agrees with me.
There is
some shame here. It's very interesting, the way we've been raised with the idea
of shame. In the end, it's very political, because we're talking about the
freedom of half of humanity. On one side, you have sex and shame, which are
social and culture ideas. On the other, you have politics, because if you have
sex [when abortion is banned] and you get pregnant, and you don't want it, it's
your punishment — it’s the punishment for the girl who had sex.
I also feel like a film about restricting abortion
would feel timely at any point in the past few years.
It’s
interesting, because when I first wrote Happening, many people asked, "Why
do you want to make this movie now? We already have the law [legalizing
abortion] in France.” I was like, "Oh, really? I hope you're going to ask
the next filmmaker that wants to make a WWII movie the same question, ‘because
it’s over, it’s over.’" I realized how much we were raised being silent
about it. This sentence, coming over and over again, “Why do you want to make
the movie?” — “Please stay silent, please stay silent.”
GQ, May
27, 2022.
Grosse
Freiheit, directed by Sebastian Meise, Austria, Germany, 2021.
Poignant
drama about a victim of Paragraph 175, the German law that prohibited sexual
acts between two men. The law was actively used until 1969 and not repealed
until 1994. Main character Hans is a homosexual who is freed from a Nazi camp
in 1945 and then immediately reimprisoned to serve a previous sentence. Over
the years, he is tried again and again. Gradually he develops a complex
friendship with addicted fellow inmate Viktor.
"BR: You’re right, Paragraph 175 is a big
blindspot in history and it was very insightful to watch and learn about it, I
guess, in the same way that you did when researching. So, did you find your
personal connection in Great Freedom‘s story through your research?
SM:
Well, the research was the basis, I knew I wanted to make a film about this.
But the personal connection came with the characters, of course. Also, with the
story between between the main characters between Hans and Victor, this was the
point where I thought this is going to be good.
BR: In regards to filming Great Freedom, I
heard that you filmed a lot of it in an actual prison, not a built set. Can you
talk about the challenges of working in such an environment?
SM:
Well, it is challenging, concerning the space as it was really limited shooting
in those small cells. The location wasn’t big. It was cold in winter, very
cold, and it was dirty. Then we had to bring the lights to the second floor, it
was really complicated. But on the other hand, we had the discussion if we
should build the cells in the studio, but I was against it because I think
shooting in a real location does something to the atmosphere of the filming
process. It was, in the end, a film set as it was not in real, functioning
prison. But, it’s a place with a lot of history, which does something not only
to the actors, but also to the whole team.
“BR: The
way that the film is structured is over three time periods, what was your
approach to creating that jump between World War II and the late 60s?
SM:
Well, I knew I wanted to start it after the war, this was always clear. As this
was the starting point that that gay people were liberated from concentration
camps, but were put directly into prisons after. Then I wanted to cover the
old, post war era until the amendment of the paragraph in ’69. So, ’45 was
clear and ’69 was clear, then in ’57 there was an amendment in the GDR of
Paragraph 175, that’s why we used that year.
BR:
Also, in terms of visually creating those years, were you thinking of making
any notable differences?
SM: In a
prison, things don’t tend to change too much. This is what I also liked about
the location because it’s somehow universal as there are bars, cells and
solitary confinement everywhere. It has a kind of universality to it, it’s
timeless, in a way. But we did try to make some differences, very subtly in the
lightning. In ’45, we just used bulbs with yellow-ish, tungsten light. Then, in
the 50s, we had fluorescent lights with a yellow, green tint. It gets colder in
the 60s, creating a feeling of modernity. But, we agreed to keep it simple and
as subtle as possible. It’s more or less in the little details. If you look
closely, you can see the differences.”
Awardswatch,
March 3, 2022.
Men,
directed by Alex Garland, United Kingdom, 2022.
Following
the apparent suicide of her husband James, Harper Marlowe decides to spend a
holiday alone in the village of Cotson, Hertfordshire, hoping to heal. But
someone or something from the surrounding woods appears to be stalking her.
What begins as simmering dread becomes a fully-formed nightmare, inhabited by
her darkest memories and fears.
“Men deals with types of masculinity, and
there are #MeToo elements.
#MeToo
was like a magnifying glass that focused a lot of people’s attention, but to my
memory – I’m 52 – there was still attention on that stuff prior to [the
movement] and there was a lot of awareness of [its issues]. It’s the kind of
thing my parents might have spoken about in the 1970s. They’d have used
slightly different terms, but they’d have been talking about exactly the same
thing. You could find any number of writers or commentators or activists who
would be addressing this.
You seem as though you’re satirising a lot of
things and commenting on grief, there’s perhaps a look at motherhood in there,
among other topics.
Usually
what I try to do is I’ll make a film that has an argument in it, but the
argument is not there if people don’t see it or are not interested in it, or
don’t want it.
For
example, a film like Ex Machina could be just a sci-fi story about a robot
escaping, or it could be seen as a discussion on objectification or gender or
whatever you want to say it is. In Men, I wanted it to be able to function as
just a ghost story, so a woman has lost her husband in extreme circumstances.
She goes away to process it, and in processing it effectively finds herself
haunted by memories, or maybe a kind of physical manifestation of her husband
or his anger, his unreasonableness, or whatever you want to call it.
Then
there’s a bunch of other stuff, and it’s layered. The key thing from my point
of view is that none of the different layers are in conflict with each other.
They can all just sit side by side and the viewer can find their own
interpretations, or find their own levels that they’re interested in or not
interested in. I just step back and say, “There’s the film, take it or leave
it.
You’ve got Rory Kinnear playing lots of
different parts. What was your thinking behind that?
It
wasn’t the original idea. When I wrote it, I was assuming there would be lots
of different actors, but at a certain point I thought there was something
interesting about the title being a plural and having one person doing all
these roles.
I like
setting up questions without necessarily forcing an answer. I think films often
feel a need to provide answers to all the questions. In the case of Jessie
Buckley’s character, if I have one actor playing all the parts, what inference
can the audience draw from that? One of them might be, “Oh, well, all these men
are the same, but she doesn’t realise it. Or she sees all men as the same, but
they’re not.” They’re two inferences that sound very similar, but have really
very, very different implications. So that bit of casting just jams that kind
of question into the story.”
BFI, May
25, 2022.
La Nuit du 12,
directed by Dominik Moll, France, Belgium, 2022.
It is
said that every investigator has a crime that haunts them, a case that hurts
him more than the others, without him necessarily knowing why. For Yohan Vivès,
just been promoted to chief inspector at the Grenoble Criminal Investigation
Department that case is the murder of Clara. She was gruesomely killed on the
night of the 12th, but there is no trace of the perpetrator. Vivès and his
seasoned partner Marceau interrogate suspect after suspect, but they do not
reach a solution.
"Even though it’s a man’s world, you focus on
your characters and your casting from a very different perspective. Take for
example Anouk Grinberg, who plays the judge, or Charline Paul as the mother of
the victim. They play small parts, but their contribution to the film is
crucial. Charline Paul appears in three scenes, and when she doesn’t even have
to say one word, her presence is still all over the screen.
I am
very lucky to work with two female casting directors that I admire, and they
know the actors in France and Belgium very well. We’ve known each other for
quite some time, so they know what I’m looking for. The casting process took
quite some time, especially for small parts, like the mother, but also all the
suspects as most of them only have one scene. The suspect who hit his wife, for
example, he’s despicable and horrible, but he also has something fascinating
and you can feel that she was attracted to him. I want all characters, even the
villains, to exist in their complexity. And if a character—any character—has
only one scene, it becomes even more difficult to ensure that he or she exists,
than when you have several scenes and you can see the character’s evolution.
The casting directors saw a lot of actors and did many screen tests; also for
the actors who play the crime squad and their colleagues, like Yohan [played by
Bastien Bouillon] and Marceau [Bouli Lanners], it was important to have that group
dynamic which is also very present in the book. For some, it’s not even their
second family; it’s their first family. You feel that without that group, they
would blow a fuse rather quickly. I spent a week with the crime squad in
Grenoble and I felt very strongly about how important the group was, and how
they got along and supported each other. That was something we paid a lot of
attention to when we were casting. But to get back to your question, for the
role of the mother, we saw quite a lot of actresses and it didn’t work, until
they had the idea of casting Charline Paul. She is a comedy actress who is also
very funny in real life. Another casting director probably wouldn’t have
thought of her because it’s a dramatic part and she only does comedy, but she
was just great. And we knew that right away. Sometimes it’s a long process to
find the right actors, but when it works, it really does, and you feel it
immediately.
The film makes a statement by saying that
twenty percent of all crimes are unsolved. But I suppose it has a bigger
message or purpose?
Message
films are tricky because delivering a message is a bit presumptuous. If you
deliver a message, that means you almost have the answer to the question, and I
don’t. What’s important for me is to ask questions, and the most important
question that I got with this film is that in this world of the police,
dominated by men, how do they question their reflexes or their thoughts. And I
was also interested in how the character of Yohan evolves throughout the film,
and the exchanges he has with the few women characters, the first one being
Nanie [Pauline Serleys], the friend of the victim, and see how he thinks.
Because, at one point, he’s always asking who the victim had been sleeping
with, and Nanie tells him, ‘By asking those questions, it’s almost like suggesting
it was her fault.’ When a girl or a woman has been killed and you hear that she
had many lovers or that she enjoyed hanging out with bad boys, people jump to
the conclusion that maybe it was a little bit her fault. That’s just completely
absurd, and it’s something you would never suggest for a man who has many
adventures. Because for a man, it would be something positive, he’s a ladies’
man. So these kinds of reflexes and thoughts are things I wanted to focus on
throughout the whole film.
In your films, those
provincial mountain areas seem to be important to you, don’t they? What
attracted you to shoot the film in Saint-Jean-de-Maurienne in the French Alps?
I indeed
have an attraction for mountains, even as a person. I like to hike in the
mountains, although that’s not a reason to make films there. I always wanted to
shoot a film in Grenoble because it’s a big city surrounded by mountains; it’s
almost as if you were a prisoner of those mountains. In the Maurienne valley,
it’s even more because it’s a very steep valley. The mountains are very
beautiful, but at the same time, they have something threatening and
overpowering. For me, it also symbolizes the fact that you can’t see the
horizon, and the investigators in the film are also stuck; they can’t see far
enough. That’s a bit theoretical as an explanation, but we had that idea in
mind. What I also like about the Maurienne valley, and Saint-Jean-de-Maurienne
in particular, is that it’s a city that’s full of contrast. It’s in the
mountains and normally you’d say, ‘Okay, a mountain city, that’s pretty and
picturesque.’ But Saint-Jean-de-Maurienne is not at all like that; it’s a very
industrial city with a big aluminum factory that employs over seven hundred
people. The valley is very polluted. So it’s industrial, and at the same time
you have the ski resorts, you have housing projects but also very nice, small
houses. It’s a mini world where you can find all kinds of different
atmospheres, and that’s something I liked about that city.”
Filmtalk,
July 12, 2022.
Blonde,
directed by Andrew Dominik, United States of America, 2022.
The
film, following a novel by Joyce Carol Oates, is a thinly veiled
fictionalisation of Monroe’s life and death, with a particular focus on her
difficult childhood, her troubled relationships with men and her own
gynaecological trouble, as she struggles to bridge the gap between Marilyn the
star and Norma Jeane the traumatised woman.
“Would you say that in this story you see
Monroe as a symbolic vessel for a story about childhood trauma or abuse?
I’ve
read everything there is to read about Marilyn Monroe. I’ve met people that
knew her. I’ve done an enormous amount of research. But in the end, it’s about
the book. And adapting the book is really about adapting the feelings that the
book gave me. I see the film, in some ways, as Joyce’s vision of Marilyn, which
is also really Joyce. So I think the film is about the meaning of Marilyn
Monroe. Or a meaning. She was symbolic of something. She was the Aphrodite of
the 20th century, the American goddess of love. And she killed herself. So what
does that mean?
Joyce is
trying to understand how it expresses a certain female experience, or a certain
human experience. You have to play fast and loose with the truth in order to
have a certain narrative drive. But there are a lot of psychological processes
that are dramatised in Blonde, a lot of Lacanian and Freudian ideas. For me it
was just the scenes I found compelling. I went with my instinct and wrote it
pretty quick. And I didn’t change it that much, even though it was sitting
around for 14 years. I know the ways in which this is different from what
people seem to agree happened. Not that everyone’s sure. Nobody really knows
what the fuck happened. So it’s all fiction anyway, in my opinion.
Do you think the film does much to unpack or
reverse the idea of Monroe being crazy or difficult?
I think…
it explains why. I mean, everyone’s crazy. When we’re talking about Marilyn,
whether you’re reading a book by Gloria Steinem [Marilyn: Norma Jeane, 1988] or
by Norman Mailer [Marilyn: A Biography, 1973 – which Steinem’s book was written
in response to], both are projections and fantasies. Marilyn represents a kind
of rescue fantasy. And the film is no different. The film is a rescue fantasy.
We feel we have a special intimacy with her character. That’s the attraction to
Marilyn, that feeling that we’re the only ones who understand. That we could
have saved her somehow. And maybe the flipside of that is a punishment fantasy,
or a sexual fantasy.
What you said about the idea of transposing modern
values on people from the past, I agree that that’s not healthy. Because I
think it’s very important to understand that women in particular had to exist
within the confines of the world that they lived in. But I feel there are
cultural repercussions to making certain choices in terms of how we present a
figure from the past. What does it say to an audience that we’re not seeing
that she formed her own production company, or that she was involved in
opposing the anti-communist witch-hunts by the House Un-American Activities
Committee in the 1950s? Or that she fought against segregation on behalf of
Ella Fitzgerald, and so on?
That
stuff is not really what the film is about. It’s about a person who is going to
be killing themself. So it’s trying to examine the reasons why they did that.
It’s not looking at her lasting legacy. I mean, she’s not even terribly
concerned with any of that stuff. If you look at Marilyn Monroe, she’s got
everything that society tells us is desirable. She’s famous. She’s beautiful.
She’s rich. If you look at the Instagram version of her life, she’s got it all.
And she killed herself. Now, to me, that’s the most important thing. It’s not
the rest. It’s not the moments of strength. OK, she wrested control away from
the men at the studio, because, you know, women are just as powerful as men.
But that’s really looking at it through a lens that’s not so interesting to me.
I’m more interested in how she feels, I’m interested in what her emotional life
was like.
Your version, or Oates’ version, of this
character is so relentlessly unhappy. Even though she’s capable of radiating so
much joy on the screen.
Well, I
think her life would have been incredibly unhappy. There are moments of joy and
love, but years of unhappiness. If she found joy, she could potentially be
alive today. You could be talking to her.
Tell me about your use of foetal imagery in the
film: of the unborn baby in the womb and with some scenes from inside the
uterus during an abortion.
Well,
she wants to have a child because she wants to rescue herself. Her own
experience of motherhood is disastrous, based on her own mother [who spent
years in a psychiatric institution]. But that baby is real to her, and so
that’s why you see the baby. I don’t think the scene would feel as real
[otherwise]. And also, she’s having a reluctant abortion. So it would be pretty
horrible. I’m trying to create her experience. I’m trying to put the audience
through the same thing. I’m not concerned with being tasteful.”
Sight
and Sound, September 27, 2022.
Un bon
matin, directed by Mia Hansen-Løve, France, United Kingdom, Germany, 2022
A young
single mother raising an 8-year-old daughter struggles to take care of her
father, who's been diagnosed with a neurodegenerative disease. While trying to
secure a decent nursing home, she runs into a married friend and they begin an
affair.
“I was struck by the title of the film—One
Fine Morning in English, Un beau matin in French—because it refers within the
film to a suicide, but it also represents serendipity in a positive way. It’s
on one fine morning that Sandra and Clément, two long-lost friends and
soon-to-be lovers, suddenly run into each other. To me, this duality seems to
represent the role of chance in all your films.
I knew I
had the idea of the title when I started writing, and it helped me a lot by
giving me some kind of direction. But I don’t know exactly when the title came
to my mind. One of the things I enjoyed about it when I found it was that I
felt like I was writing some kind of diptych with L’avenir [Things to Come
(2016)], which in some way could be a film about my mother. And this one would
be like the reverse: even though it’s a portrait of a woman, it’s a portrait of
my father as well, even if he is not the main character. We feel a lot about
his past life, even though we don’t know it exactly. L’avenir had the same kind
of openness and ambiguity. L’avenir [or “the future,” in English] could be seen
as an ironic title because it is about this woman who is so unsure about her
future, and the film brings her back to thinking there is a future for her.
I’m
always happy when I find very simple titles. You often realize that the most
simple titles have never been used. I also think it’s very right for the film
because the film is about the cruelty of life—the fact that [Sandra] has to
leave her father at the end in order to live her own life and to be happy—but
there is also openness and light in it. When we say Un beau matin, we see
light.
In the press notes, you say that you can’t make
a film with a tragic ending. This is true of many of your films, but especially
this one—it has this coexistence of grief, mortality, and the cruelties of life
with a lightness that never seems forced. Since so many of your films are
inspired by your life, I was wondering if that’s how you view life, or is
cinema a fantasy for you, a way of imposing a happy ending on life?
Your
question connects with what’s at the heart of everything for me as a director.
It deals with what cinema is really about, why we make films. For me, the whole
point is to find a way to do two things at the same time, and those two things
can be contradictory sometimes. One thing is capturing life the way it is in
the most truthful, honest way you can. Achieving lucidity, I would say. And on
the other hand, I want films to help me to live. So the whole question for me
is: how can I be as honest as possible—how can I be true about my experience of
life—without provoking despair? If I just focus on my father’s life, the last
chapter of his life, I will find no consolation. It’s so sad, and not only
because of his sickness, but because after that, he got COVID-19 and died in
the most horrible way you could imagine.
If you
just look at one aspect of life, you find reasons to despair, but if you look
at more things, you realize that maybe we just have to broaden our lens. Then
you find reasons to hope, and that’s what I try to do. But while I was making
this film, I didn’t feel I was betraying the truth—I just felt I was closest to
the truth, because life is never about only one thing. When my father was dying
of COVID-19, I was pregnant, to give you another example of how life confronts
us with very opposing things. I don’t think I’m cheating or artificially
creating some happy ending where there shouldn’t be one. It’s more the opposite
to me. Sometimes when writers make films about difficult topics, they just
press and press and press again as if there was more realism to it. But to me
there’s even more artifice in pressing the same button.”
Film
Comment, May 24, 2022.
Nuevo
orden, directed by Michel Franco, Mexico, France, 2020.
In 2020,
the gap between social classes in Mexico is increasingly marked. A high-society
wedding is interrupted by a group of armed and violent rioters who are part of
an even larger uprising of the underprivileged, and take the participants as
hostages. The Mexican Army exploits the disorder caused by the riots to
establish a military dictatorship in the country. It involves the kidnappings
of young adults, extortion, assaults, torture of the kidnapped while being
held, and execution upon receiving no ransom, some of it, or all of it, by the
Mexican military.
“Naian Gonzalez Norvind’s character plays the
role of the rich helping the poor against her own benefit. Just briefly, please
tell me a little bit about both the character and the actress.
As a
matter of fact, the actress and the character are quite similar; I wrote it
specifically for her. There is a lot of Naian in that character. I have known
her since she was 14 because she’s the sister of the actress in After Lucia.
She’s that kind of positive person wanting to help and make things differently,
and that might get her disappointed. She’s not as naive as the character but
she’s as kind as her. There is a lot of heroine in the character.
Do you think she plays that turning point in
the story where people realise that not everything is black or white but a yin
and yang sort of thing?
She’s a
reminder within her family that things are not right. But does she fully
understand their situation? She is willing to leave her own wedding for a little
while to make a very good deal, but is she really willing to sacrifice more
than that? I don’t think she understands what that means… To me, that’s also
interesting. She’s very naive.
Nevertheless, the film winds her up in a
situation that looks more political than socially critical. Could you please
elaborate on that point?
The
second part of the movie talks about the military. When I made the film, I
didn’t want to talk about left or right wings or any kind of political ideas as
it would’ve been much smaller than it is and people from different places
wouldn’t relate to it. I would be giving a narrow point of view.
What I
do want to talk about is who can think and defend militarizing. Is that a good
idea? Have we learned anything from the past? Look at all the dictatorships in
South America in the last few decades. Even now with the pandemic, some
governments are taking advantage of the situation to fully control the
population. Will they give away that control once the pandemic is over? I don’t
know whether they will tell the truth. What I want to say is very clear, and
that’s why my main character is put in their hands. It’s so devastating.”
Alfonso Cuarón, Guillermo Del Toro, Alejandro
Iñarritu; I believe all these figures have helped to establish Mexican
filmmaking. How do you see the current filmmaking scene in the country?
I think
Mexican cinema is very powerful, one of the strongest in the world. I identify
myself a lot more with the likes of Amat Escalante – he's my favourite Mexican
film director. Then, of course, there is Lorenzo Vigas, my business partner; we
produce films together. He won a Golden Lion with his first movie and has a new
film coming out next year. I think the difference between the three big names
and ourselves is that we are still living and shooting in Mexico. That’s a big
difference.”
Metal,
November 25, 2020.
Huda’s
Salon, directed by Hany Abud-Assad, Egypt, Netherlands, Occupied Palestinian
Territory, Qatar, 2021.
Nadia, a
young mother married to a jealous man, goes to Huda's salon in Bethlehem, for a
haircut and an attentive ear. But this ordinary visit turns sour when Huda,
after having put Nadia in a shameful situation, blackmails her to have her work
for the secret service. As Nadia escapes the salon, that same night, Huda is
arrested by Hasan. They find nameless pictures of all the women Huda recruited,
including Nadia's. Huda knows that she will be executed the moment she gives up
the names. She tries to bide herself as much time as possible.
“HtN: Well, it’s a very complex story and I really
appreciate the way you approach multiple sides to every issue. Your ideological
perspective is not monolithic. How is the film being received back home or, if
it has yet to screen there, how do you think it will be received?
HA-A: So
far it has only been playing at festivals. But Arab women are the ones who will
most understand this story, because they understand exactly how vulnerable they
are in a society where some of the men are misogynistic and will prefer to
punish the victim rather than to lose their authority. Because in this kind of
situation, they cannot punish the real perpetrators; they have no authority
over the occupiers, but they still have authority over the victim. They prefer
to punish the victim and keep their authority.
So,
although not all men in Palestine are misogynists, in general the women will
understand this kind of situation more than men. And it was shown at a festival
in Saudi Arabia and when the lights came up, I watched the faces of the women
in the audience and saw the horror of what they had experienced. And some of
them were crying. So I felt as if I had captured the experience from a woman’s
point of view.
HtN: And certainly your ending doesn’t resolve
anything, so I can imagine how women who may empathize with Reem would be left
in a certain kind of tragic place. How did COVID-19 affect the production. I
understand you had to shut down for 7 months. Is that right?
HA-A:
Yes. You know, it was a nightmare, I have to say, although there is a good side
to it, because when you shut down for so long you have more time to write your
story. And in some ways, I really made it a better script. But during the shoot
I had the constant fear that somebody would get sick and I would feel
responsible. And at that time, no company would insure us from COVID or the
consequence of COVID. So many times I made compromises and decided not to do
things as I had originally planned, hoping to maybe fix it in the editing room.
And I therefore felt, while editing, that I did not have a lot of options to
explore. So, that was a negative effect. But the rewriting of the script over
those 7 months was a positive.
HtN: You have many long takes in the movie,
particularly in that opening scene where, yes, you do shock us because Huda
suddenly reveals herself to be something we didn’t think she was. How did you
devise that aesthetic for this particular movie?
HA-A:
The reason why it is one shot is because I realized I wanted to make a movie
where the audience is stuck in time and place. Editing makes the movie
digestible: you can accept the passage of time easily. With a single take, you
have to wait while they move from one room to the other and you are stuck with
them. This intensifies the experience of Reem being drugged and effectively
raped … for her, it is like being raped.
And in the same sense, I wanted to explore the cinematic contradiction between the
objective and subjective points of view. When you are stuck in time and place,
you are a witness and you are not subjective, as an audience. And I wanted to
explore a way to make even this objective point of view a subjective one. So I
played with the camera movement in a way that when I wanted it to become
subjective, the camera became a mirror for the character, coming closer to her,
and what she sees, we see. But meanwhile, you are still stuck there in the
objective position, as somebody who cannot be manipulated, stuck there in time
and place.”
Hammer to Nail, March 5, 2022.
Nope,
directed by Jordan Peele, United States of America, Canada, Japan, 2022.
A man
and his sister discover something sinister in the skies above their California
horse ranch, while the owner of a nearby theme park tries to profit from the
mysterious, otherworldly phenomenon.
“The Eadweard Muybridge loop looms over Nope;
your characters are said to be descendants from its unnamed rider. To you, what
does it mean that the erasure of Black men was there at the foundation of
cinema?
It’s a
sad part of this industry. It was something I was learning at a good point for
myself in this story. I felt like five, 10 years ago, I would never have been
able to sell this movie to anyone. So I’m juxtaposing this origin story of film
at the same time I’m trying to make a story that’s scary and joyous and
adventurous and everything I love about film. It just felt very fitting for
that starting point to be acknowledged and have ancestral implications for our
main characters.
Do you think of your movie as like an antidote
to that film?
Yes.
I’ve been trying to put that together. It’s a sequel, it’s an antidote, it’s a
reboot, it’s an answer to the way films began and have continued.
Kaluuya and Palmer’s characters work on movie
sets and Nope centres on their attempts to capture something on film. To you,
is Nope about the movie industry?
It
became very meta very quick. Making a movie is basically like chasing the
impossible, trying to bottle something that doesn’t exist. I was inspired by
films like King Kong and Jurassic Park that really deal with the human
addiction to spectacle and the presentation and monetization of that. The meta
part is you’re commenting on this notion at the same time you’re trying to
utilize it and trying to create something that people can’t look away from.
Why do you think in writing Nope your thoughts
went back to the beginning of film?
Part of
the world of Nope is flirting with real Hollywood and the Hollywood that takes
place in my liminal dreams and nightmares. In real life, of the prominent
Hollywood horse trainers, there’s not an African American one I’m representing.
The Haywoods are a very made-up family and notion. It was fun to weave the
Hollywood fiction with reality and try and make a seamless immersion into
what’s real and what’s not.
Since seeing your film, clouds have taken on a
sinister appearance to me. What led you to build your film around that image of
an unmoving cloud?
The
beauty of the sky is enthralling – the first movies, in a way. Every now and
then you’ll see a cloud that sits alone and is too low, and it gives me this
vertigo and this sense of Presence with a capital P. I can’t describe it, but I
knew if I could bottle that and put it into a horror movie, it might change the
way people look at the sky.
How much were you thinking about Close
Encounters of the Third Kind?
Yeah,
Close Encounters is something I think about a lot, as is Signs by M. Night
Shyamalan. These are big-vision directors who have taken flying saucers and science
fiction and have brought magic to the way they told those stories. I wanted to
toss my hat in the ring to one of my favourite sub-genres, in UFOs, and do it
in a way only I can.”
The Globe and Mail, July 22, 2022
Memoria,
directed by Apichatpong Weerasethakul, Colombia,Thailand, France, Germany, Mexico,
Qatar, United Kingdom, China, United States of America, Switzerland, 2021.
Jessica,
a woman from Scotland, while traveling in Colombia, begins to notice strange
sounds. Soon it becomes apparent that she is the only one who perceives it. It
leads to a meandering, sensory exploration of Bogotá and beyond. With the help
of a young sound designer, she attempts to reproduce the sound-a thump? a bang?
a thump? a rumble from the bowels of the earth?
While
visiting an archaeologist friend, she views and touches human bones thousands
of years old, excavated from the site of a tunnel being built. In a village
near the site, she meets a man who can remember every event of his
life-complete with a few painful memories of others.
““Memoria” is in a way a film about
communicating and connecting – this is performed through many layers, one of
which is sound. You connect the sound with the earth; the metallic “bang”
appearing in the first shot of the film sounds “earthly, like the core of
Earth”, as Jessica explains its sonic structure. How did you establish this
connection – sound with Earth?
The way
I operate is really transparent with each film. It connects with my experience.
That is genuinely the feeling I had when I went through the episode of the
Exploding Head Syndrome. When you lie there, your head is on the pillow, on the
bed, with all the noise in your head, you start to feel that everything’s
connected – to your body, the floor, the different floors down below, and
finally, to Earth. It felt to me that this sound activated the sense of
connection – between self and Earth. Essentially, the experience became about
self-realization, it came afterwards as an understanding of the peculiar
notion, that everyone is connected through different sorts of vibrations. It’s
not only the planet but the way you talk, the way you move, the way our minds
vibrate; everybody is connected and we have really no choice but to be part of
this – vibration.
There are so many scenes revolving only about
the act of listening: Jessica listening to Hernan’s music, where we can only
hear a slight change of the weather; Jessica participating in the concert, of
which we have no vision at first; Jessica listening to the sounds of the
monkeys across the river, which we don’t see. These scenes become about
participation – and I must say I’ve never participated in something like this.
How did the premise of these scenes appear in your head?
For me,
memory is a vehicle for listening and participating, inasmuch as it is a way to
experiment with the soundscape of cinema. It comes from me: my own preference
of living, my experience, my perspective. When I want to stay focused or when I
feel stressed, sound becomes the first sense that I resort to – sound is the
first element that comes to my mind. I think that more than visual contact –
watching or seeing – it is always the sound that calms me down or makes me
focused. It’s a very acute notion. And since there is a complicit relationship
with Jessica, we have to listen. Maybe in other films, sound is not that
important, but for “Memoria” you’re superimposed to do so, as it becomes a kind
of conditioning for participation. When I first watched “Memoria” after we
finished it, I felt that the film made me calm down. The whole process also
made me realize I needed to make almost real-life like instructions on how to
focus and stop for a moment, and tell yourself – hey, just ‘be’.
I found in your notes that sound is the last
sense to go when you die.
This is
what Tilda [Swinton] told me, actually. I think during the pre-production, we
met from time to time and she was recounting the experience of being with her
dad shortly before he passed away. This is when she told me this, “the sound is
the last sense we experience”. I didn’t think of that this way. But I really
hope this is the fact. It was very moving for me, to absorb this information at
that particular moment, but also – it was very moving to have this form of a
unique collaboration that we established.
And so is the research you’ve made for the
film. Fungi, archaeology, human bones, tired mountain syndrome – it’s all very
organic. The last time we spoke, you described the process of gathering data as
a synchronization – with the information, but also the rhythm, your rhythm and
that of the narrative. What made you connect it this way with the research?
I think
it’s always been a similar process for each of my films. It’s about how I
gravitate around the topics I’m finding interesting at the time of being. But
more so in “Memoria”, because it’s concerning Colombia, I felt I was a kid back
again. With a completely new and foreign environment, I could explore and
through that, I could re-activate my curiosity – about archaeology or
infections, but also everything, in general, that is able to give me the spark
to move in a certain direction, to different places. So it’s also organic in a
way, that it was entirely there; it was there to be found and I didn’t know
what was gonna come up. I just needed to collect all of these.
Asian Movie Pulse, April 24, 2022.
Drii
Winter, directed by Michael Koch, Switzerland, Germany, 2022.
In a
remote mountain village, the still young love of Anna and Marco is put to serve
a test. As a result of the brain tumor, Marco increasingly loses his impulse
control. In the tense relationship between the village community and the
effects of Marco's illness, Anne tries to preserve a love that in the end
outshines even death.
“How did this come about?
Michael
Koch: Years ago, I met a young woman in a remote mountain [town] who told me
her story about her husband who changed a lot during illness. I was really
touched by the way she coped with her challenges and how she reacted to it,
especially how she found this difficult period a way back to her husband and
accompanied him to his death. It was such a great human gesture, and I thought
I would like to write a story about her, and I met all these people in this
remote Alpine village and I thought it would be really nice to include them in
the movie. So the idea was born to make the movie with nonprofessional actors
because they bring something really special to the film and I decided to shoot
my movie with them together.
With
all the research you did Michel, how much did you want to give to the cast when
what you liked about them came naturally?
Michael
Koch: I always told them “Stay yourself. Don’t act,” because I wanted something
really personal from them. Michèle was an exception, but the other
protagonists, I told them stay yourself and I adapted the screenplay a lot to
these characters and I just wanted to have something really authentic about
them. Besides the story of Anna and Marco, [I wanted to express] how it is to
live in this remote place on these steep hills in this narrow valley, and what
it is like to work there with the animals in the mountain farmer’s life. I
think they’re really special and they taught me that you often have situations
in life that you cannot control and you have to learn to accept this. They
[have] this really strong, stoic behavior because nature teaches them that they
cannot control everything — you have like avalanches coming down and this heavy
weather, so you have to adapt and stay calm in order to succeed. That’s what
they taught me.
It was
important for me to have a lot of shooting days, so that we could react to what
happens, to the weather for example or also to some work the farmers did. For
example, there’s one scene where hay bales are coming out of the white sky down
[from the mountain] and it wasn’t planned in the script because I didn’t know
they do it in winter. When I talked to the farmer and he said, “Okay, we’re
going to get some hay bales down” the next day, I thought, “Okay, we have to
shoot this scene” and then we waited here until the moment when the weather
changed a little bit, so we have this nice foggy atmosphere, and then we see
the mountain on the other side. For me, this way to shoot the film, you get
some unexpected lovely scenes and you have to be really prepared, but then you
get some wonderful things and from time to time.
Is it true it actually took two years to
convince Simon to be part of the film?
Michael
Koch: Yeah, because I met Simon years ago on a cattle show and he stayed in my
mind. I was sure that he’s the one, but he told me really early that he was not
interested in movies and he hasn’t got time. But I kept visiting him over the
years, telling him about the project and how perfect he fits the main
character’s role, trying to persuade him over two or three years. In the end,
he said, “Okay, I’m going to accept it because I like you, but I’m just going
to do it for you. I don’t do it because I want to be in the movies.” I was
really happy to have him because he has a great presence. His physicality is
really impressive, but at the same moment, he has something quite melancholic
inside him. It’s like a treasure hidden inside himself, so I was really
interested in this, but actually this was quite a challenge to get all the
nonprofessional [cast] — all the people you see — in the movie because everyone
was not excited about it in the beginning, except Michèle. But it’s also
understandable that these farmers have a lot to do, especially during summer,
and the more they didn’t want to be in the movie, the more I was fascinated by
them, so at the end, I was just asking them again and again until they said,
“Okay, we do it for you.” [laughs]
The
Moveable Fest, November 28, 2022.
Ali &
Ava, directed by Clio Barnard, United Kingdom, 2021.
Ali is
an always good-humoured and concerned landlord. When he picks up a child of one
of his tenants from school, he offers Ava, an Irish-born teacher and single
mother of five, a ride. They
immediately click because of their shared love of music, even though Ali's
tastes, with their preference for fierce British punk and hip-hop, differ from
Ava's. A relationship blossoms that is soon overshadowed by the traces of Ava's
previous relationship and the collapse of Ali's marriage.
“For this film, you did a workshopping
process where the real-life inspirations for the characters are participating
with the actors. What does that look like in practice?
There
are different phases to it, I suppose. The first is the sketch of the idea, as
I didn’t have a full script. I’ve worked with Adeel Akhtar, who plays Ali, and
Rebecca Manley, who was in The Selfish Giant. Rebecca had gotten to know Rio,
who Ava’s based on, while making The Selfish Giant. Adeel had listened to lots
of recordings that I’d done with Moey Hassan, who Ali’s based on. I devised a
workshop with Rebecca around potential themes, and then they improvised. We
took just two days trying out different things. The scene in the car, quite a
bit of that came from that initial workshop, as did the scene in Ali’s basement
when Ava comes to visit him. And, I think, the scene on the doorsteps came from
that initial workshop.
I’ll go
away [after] and write a draft, and then we did another set of workshops in
Bradford with Rio. She sat in the room with us, and Rebecca was working with me
again. Shaun [Thomas] was playing Callum, and Rio was watching and giving
notes. We were encouraging her to get up and get involved in doing some
performing as well! But she’s a funny mixture of sharp, shy, and not shy. She’s
very apt to say, “No, that’s not right,” very confidently. That’s what those
two different workshops were like. Then, I went back to the script and spent
time in my shed at the end of my garden where I am now. Using those workshops
to build a script from, or going back to chat with Moey or Rio, there’s a kind
of back-and-forth process.
Was Claire Rushbrook not involved in the
workshopping stage at all?
She
wasn’t. By the time Claire got involved, we actually had quite a honed script.
Like I said, Adeel was involved from before the beginning. We had a more
conventional casting process for Ava. We met Claire first and had a chat. We
met a few different people from quite a short list—I think three people—with
[casting director] Shaheen Baig. We did a casting workshop, and they did three
different scenes that have been written but I then asked them to improvise
around. They did the scene on the sofa with the headphones, and Claire just
really made me laugh and moved me. You could see that there was a real spark
between her and Adeel.
I had wondered if Claire brought any expertise
from her collaboration with Mike Leigh, who has perhaps the most storied
workshopping process in cinema.
I love
her in Secrets & Lies, she’s so brilliant. I don’t know whether she drew on
that experience with Mike Leigh. I know that once she came up to Bradford,
because the production was sort of up and running when we were in prep, she
went and spent a lot of time with Rio and her family. She did this brilliant
thing of creating this on-screen family, because her granddaughters are all
non-actors who had never done it before.
What’s the goal of having real people so
involved in the production process? Is it to make your performers feel like
they’re channeling real people rather than characters?
Not
really. I’ve been making films in that very specific way for over 10 years now.
It’s more about meeting people, feeling inspired by them, and wanting to see
their stories on the big screen. I would say these are fictional biographical
portraits that are made in collaboration with the people who inspired them. The
Selfish Giant was inspired by real boys I met when I was making The Arbor, and
The Arbor is a semi-documentary about real people. It’s about lives that often
go uncelebrated or unseen and wanting them to have a place on the big screen.
Slant, July
28, 2022.
P.S.
1. Other notable
films : (alphabetical) : Avec Amour et Acharnement, directed
by Claire Denis; C’mon C’mon, directed by Mike Mills; Close, directed by Lucas
Dhont; Fabian oder Der Gang vor die
Hunde, directed by Dominik Graf; The Innocents, original title De uskyldige,
directed by Eskil Vogt; Les Intranquilles,
directed by Joachim Lafosse; Lamb, original title Dýrið, directed by Valdemar Jóhannsson; Mothering
Sunday, directed by Eva Husson; Pink Moon, directed by Floor van der Meulen; The Tragedy of Macbeth, directed by Joel Coen; The Worst Person in the World,
original title Verdens verste menneske, directed by Joachim Trier.
2. Definitely
in my top 5 if it was distributed in The Netherlands. Serre moi fort, directed by Mathieu Almaric,
France, 2021. In this masterpiece Clarisse (Vicky Krieps) leaves her
husband Marc (Arieh Worthalter) and children (played by four different actors
at various points). But, was it this morning? Yesterday? Tomorrow? Or, ever?
Amalric's screenplay adaptation of Claudine Galea's play, immediately makes it
clear that little of what we see can be taken either linearly or even,
literally. The film
was shown at the International Film Festival Rotterdam 2022.
3. Actress of the year : Vicky Krieps
Actor of the year : Franz Rogowski
Filmscore of the year : Matthew Herbert for The Wonder
Best photography Robbie Ryan for C’mon C’mon (b/w) & Ari Wegner for The Wonder (colour)
Best Dutch film : Pink Moon by Floor van der Meulen
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